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Beverly heals · Feb 26, 2010, 10:36 PM // 22:36

SO here are my thoughts about how we could do mqsc:

First there are two teams now:

1 "up hill" team that would do: Yeti route + 1/4 & 2/4 on W route

1 "down hill team" that would do: B route + W 3/4 & 4/4

1 runner for the outcasts.

Up hill team:

1 tank (600 or Perma)
1Mop (Fowsc style)
1 100B (Fowsc style too)

Down Hill team

1 tank (600 or Perma)
1MoP (Fowsc style)
1 100B (Fowsc too)

1 runner with whatever.

1 UA rez runner.

Once the team is running good i think runs could go within 10mins.

Any suggestions?
Anyone wanna try it out?

Spiritz · Feb 26, 2010, 10:54 PM // 22:54

err
shadowform was nerfed mainly and err wallows are touchers so they steal hp , no healers in party.
Also i think you cant say SC now as most if not all have been nerfed via 600/smite , sf and obby
I could be wrong tho but i dont think it would work.

Beverly heals · Feb 26, 2010, 11:07 PM // 23:07

actually a 600 can tank wallows without a problem he just won't kill as he won't have any smite buffs on him but he can tank.

I don't think toucher go through sf as they are spells anyway. Only physical or melee damages can past through.

Enko · Feb 26, 2010, 11:10 PM // 23:10

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Originally Posted by Beverly heals

actually a 600 can tank wallows without a problem he just won't kill as he won't have any smite buffs on him but he can tank.

I don't think toucher go through sf as they are spells anyway. Only physical or melee damages can past through.

the hp steal touch skills are "Skills" not spells. they go through SF.

Lukyboy · Feb 26, 2010, 11:27 PM // 23:27

I really doubt you are going to do enough damage at the small groups like the wallows on the beach route, the naga group near res shrine@ beach, the yeti ranger boss group and whatever oni you pop along the way

X Dr Pepper X · Feb 27, 2010, 12:51 AM // 00:51

NO. I never wanna see the phrase SC again in GW. A friend and I were able to completely vq MQ in 20-25 mins with only Me, Him, + Heroes w/o cons. Find a good route and team build and play the game normally. Death to speed clears

Hailey Anne · Feb 27, 2010, 03:53 AM // 03:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by X Dr Pepper X

NO. I never wanna see the phrase SC again in GW. A friend and I were able to completely vq MQ in 20-25 mins with only Me, Him, + Heroes w/o cons. Find a good route and team build and play the game normally. Death to speed clears

I really hate this attitude.
Who are you to tell anyone what "normal" is?
Some people like the speedclears because they just dont have time to spend 1-2 hours to do things like UW/FoW ect. Speedclears atleast gave people that oppurtunity to do this.

Beverly heals · Feb 27, 2010, 05:59 AM // 05:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by X Dr Pepper X

NO. I never wanna see the phrase SC again in GW. A friend and I were able to completely vq MQ in 20-25 mins with only Me, Him, + Heroes w/o cons. Find a good route and team build and play the game normally. Death to speed clears

Well let me tell you that you suck lol. Did it with heroes and henchies in less than 19mins.
My point is.... do not judge like you just did ppl who are desperately trying to finish the lux title during an event, when faction pvp'ing is full of crappy players.
Just because some ppl were/are Sc'ing for factions farming it doesn't mean they are UWsc'ing or something else.
Just so you know i've probably vanquished on my own with just heroes... and sometimes henches (i don't take them usually) more areas than you and your friend probably have vanquished altogether.
And with your blinded eyes you put all the farmers and the excellent players in the same bag, meaning that whoever touched at least once to the sc'ing to try something new is a person full of c...
So before just posting things like that just think about how poorly heroic is your accomplishment (20mins for quinkai) and how some ppl who wanted to sc a bit could just teach a lot of things about this game.

Cheers, and if you need a demo for quinkai i can even do it under 10mins with you afk in my group.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hailey Anne

I really hate this attitude.
Who are you to tell anyone what "normal" is?
Some people like the speedclears because they just dont have time to spend 1-2 hours to do things like UW/FoW ect. Speedclears atleast gave people that oppurtunity to do this.

Totally wrong. The nerf of elite area speed clear is a good thing. if you don't have 1-2hrs like you said well then just go for a vanquish or a mish or just play another game. Speedclears never really offered opportunities to do this as it has always been discriminating players. The only "somewhatspeedclear" that was allowing everyone participate was the Ursanway, but that was a while ago.

FoxBat · Feb 27, 2010, 06:06 AM // 06:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by X Dr Pepper X

NO. I never wanna see the phrase SC again in GW.

Welcome to the farming forum.

Spiritz · Feb 27, 2010, 03:31 PM // 15:31

Another problem which i found after 2 vq runs - damn wallows now have enchant removal thanks to update.
Very puzzling why my crit scythe sin when hitting a mob of wallows went from 3 enchants to zero in a spilt second - bye ias lol.
Really slowed me down that did - 21 mins avg pre nerf to 25 mins avg post nerf .
Btw what 1 person calls a speedclear may not be same as anothers - if i said pre nerf to a mqsc team "i can h/h mqsc in 21 mins" id be lol`d at bigtime but to players who dont actually "pro" speedclear and do them for fun or setting own records may show some agreement and say well done.I only like to keep a record of my times for time - if i have 30 mins spare i know what i can do in that 30 mins.

Also UWSC and the others that are "rushed" are usually after the end chest - mqsc only offers rep as the reward and incentive as all faction speedclears so 2 entirely different types of the term speedclear.

Teknikaali · Feb 27, 2010, 07:15 PM // 19:15

Wartower thread about mqsc and builds..

Though the ritbars should be reworked.. Essence Strike as E-Management is just not that good ;o

Moriean · Feb 28, 2010, 02:31 PM // 14:31

It's on PVX too now.

DeVerseBakker · Feb 28, 2010, 02:39 PM // 14:39

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Mount_Qinkai_Speed_Clear seems to be better:

The average time to clear the area is 8-13 minutes.

pogi8 · Mar 01, 2010, 11:33 AM // 11:33

when you go tanker, pick some nukers and healers, get a friends, let him also pick nukes and heals such as meteor shower, savannahs heat and word of healing, UA and so on...

you can clear it all in just 15-20 mins (i mostley got around 17) so, i don't think we should
be wasting time at trying new builds because 2 player Heroes way is still effective, people forget that cause of the last few months where it all was done with ppl ... try H/H if you dont got partner, it goes very good